Defending Beef by Nicolette Hahn Niman with Rob Penn

Nicolette’s phrase ‘It’s not the cow, it’s the how’ sums up the powerful case she makes for pasture-fed beef being part of the solution not the problem, in the revised edition of her classic book Defending Beef: The Ecological and Nutritional Case for Meat. Nicolette was a vegetarian for 33 years and working in Washington as an environmental lawyer when she met and married cattle-rancher Bill Niman, a pioneer of grass-fed beef and original supplier to Alice Waters’ famous San Francisco restaurant Chez Panisse. In conversation with author and journalist, Rob Penn.